BillieThePuppet
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- onkyo rz50
Too early to tell but disabling osd might be the solution.
at 4:59 the RZ70 and its "step up" model (RZ90 presumably) are mentioned...
any update/No costs for Dirac Live, no news yet on DLBM, so maybe in the future.
Hello, is there any news of whether the rz50 can be updated to dirac bass management? I have dual subs and not getting the bass i am wanting.
It doesn't have independent channels for the subs - there is only a single channel (basically a Y split on a single channel).Hello, is there any news of whether the rz50 can be updated to dirac bass management? I have dual subs and not getting the bass i am wanting.
All indications are that these will be available on the new flagship models which will hoprefully be released in January along with the new Dirac Live... (and these should have the requisite seperate sub channels, as well as a more powerful set of DSP chips for the additional processing requirement
Hanging on to my britches!Unfortunately, this is isn’t accurate. We’ll have full coverage once the embargo/NDA are lifted… but anything you see revealed by Dirac during 2023 won’t require “more powerful DSP chips.” And, your information as to specific model ranges and timing is also off.
Just hang in there for a few more days and we’ll have all of the details and current information that can be made publicly available ready for you to chew through!
Waiting with great impatience...Unfortunately, this is isn’t accurate. We’ll have full coverage once the embargo/NDA are lifted… but anything you see revealed by Dirac during 2023 won’t require “more powerful DSP chips.” And, your information as to specific model ranges and timing is also off.
Just hang in there for a few more days and we’ll have all of the details and current information that can be made publicly available ready for you to chew through!
I'd love it if they offered something like a Dynamic EQ like in Audyssey. I had Dirac for a few years as of a few months ago and I find DEQ to work better for home theater.The purposeful limitation is only because this technology can have a negative effect in an environment when not deployed carefully. The only way to give it a little fudge room, if you will, is to keep it focused on the extreme low end.
Don't be too sad, tho. I listened to demo materials over a 30 minute period... had a chance to get up and walk around to hear the effects throughout the room... and its impact is real. Real good. Trust me... it's going to be well received!
This tidbit of information sorta makes me regret buying the Pioneer VSX-LX505 which will arrive on Monday.Unfortunately, this is isn’t accurate. We’ll have full coverage once the embargo/NDA are lifted… but anything you see revealed by Dirac during 2023 won’t require “more powerful DSP chips.” And, your information as to specific model ranges and timing is also off.
Just hang in there for a few more days and we’ll have all of the details and current information that can be made publicly available ready for you to chew through!
This tidbit of information sorta makes me regret buying the Pioneer VSX-LX505 which will arrive on Monday.
Hopefully the $200 discount Electronics Expo had on Amazon will be enough to quell the FOMO for anything cool that drops in 2023.
If this is only related to Dirac it really does not matter that much to me, so only time will tell if I think i made a wise purchase or not.
Don't feel bad either. It will a long time before consumer AVR's get it (my prediction) and historically Dirac takes a while before something is stable. I've used Dirac since the middle versions of version 1 and it's usually pretty buggy upfront.We are free to talk about Dirac ART now… the only processor that will utilize it to start is StormAudio. Outside of that, other manufacturers will be given the option to add it (or some form of it) at their discretion and for an extra charge of $299, give or take.
I still think you’re fine with the Pioneer. There’s no guarantee that any of the consumer AVR lines will carry ART. And if they eventually do, when they roll out is completely unknown.
Take delivery of that Pioneer. Enjoy it. It’s going to give you great performance… and if ART eventually finds its way to Pioneer, you’ll have the option to upgrade. If not, you can always sell and buy something else. I wouldn’t sweat it tho!
Most of us would have thought, during CES we would get more info, do you have an indication 'when'?Just hang in there for a few more days and we’ll have all of the details and current information that can be made publicly available ready for you to chew through!
Most of us would have thought, during CES we would get more info, do you have an indication 'when'?
I was hoping for the RZ70/90, but it looks like Storm Audio got an inside run, and other contenders will have to wait... (to get Dirac Live -ART) Based on the interview.... until at least 4Q - so late 2023.Aahh since you replied too @dlaloum my impression was that you talked about the RZ70 and/or RZ90.
Any speculation about what Audyssey might do with their MQX offering. I really like it but curious where they could take itI wish I had specific model information for you. Right now, it’s impossible know what manufacturers are going to do with this technology. Obviously, there’s the issue of license cost, and there’s little doubt that manufacturers will use ART to push sales to top models.
As you point out, we’re still waiting to see what will happen with Bass Control.
So, while companies have the software in hand, now, we likely won’t see it on the Marantz’s and Onkyo’s of the world until 2024 at the earliest.
Unless someone in the back skunkworks has been doing A LOT of R&D, I doubt Audyssey has an answer to DL-ART.Any speculation about what Audyssey might do with their MQX offering. I really like it but curious where they could take it
The ability to upload REW to create target curves which turns into FIR filters is underrated. Also, I think DEQ is a value add for sure. I didn’t know how much I missed it until I didn’t have it.Unless someone in the back skunkworks has been doing A LOT of R&D, I doubt Audyssey has an answer to DL-ART.
They pretty much stopped development 10 years ago when Denon/Marantz purchased the exclusive licence for Audyssey, shutting out other competitors. MQX is just the abilities of the Audyssey installers pro-kit, repackaged for the current series and with a new user interface for the mass market.... nothing new there.
D&M are aware of this, and therefore are opening the window to Dirac....
Dirac have said that if an AVR can do DLBC, then it can do DL-ART.... so there is nothing stopping D&M from providing DL-ART update options in 2024.
In the meantime, Audyssey is a perfectly viable competitor to standard DL, and even to a lesser degree, DLBC.... so it will cover most of the mass market without any trouble.
I expect that DL-ART will be reserved for TOTL hardware, primarily due to its licencing cost.... so Audyssey and MQX will not be under serious pressure for a few years yet.