Coronavirus Outbreak

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Remember, the "peak" is a rolling date.. It all depends on the number of cases growing or decreasing.. Then after the "peak", you still have weeks for declining cases which will only then go to minimal numbers which means, June estimate at the minimum here for back to normal..
 

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I agree, best to stay home for Easter.

Now, when I go to Kroger to get grocery supplies, mostly every 2 weeks, everybody is wearing lot more protective gear, especially masks, gloves, and eye protection so that is good.

Better to be safe than sorry..
 

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We went into lockdown nearly one month ago and overnight the confirmed new cases were only eight people, however six are in NSW where I live, compare this to a cruise ship docked offshore which reported 19 new cases overnight. (This is only from the people tested, there may actually be more that do not present with symptoms)
Most people here have acted responsibly and avoided each other when out. Of course we do not have the same density of people as other areas of the world where it is harder to avoid contact with people or surfaces.
My thoughts are with all the countries that are doing it hard and don't have the means to deal with this horrible disease.

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Stay safe and when outside, wear masks or some type of facial covering and when back home, wash hands.
 
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Stay safe and when outside, where masks or some type of facial covering and when back home, wash hands.
I agree totally for the areas most affected. I have been working from home for the last two weeks thankfully as they regard me in the immune-compromised group.
Surprisingly it has gone better than expected since I do all the I.T. jobs including phones, network, printers, desktops and laptops and have been supporting this remotely from home.
Sincerely, I hope everyone understands that it can be contained by keeping a safe distance.
And yes, wash your hands... and don't touch your face. That is the hard part!
 
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Glad to hear you are doing well under the circumstances. Yes, social distancing is a must as well as having facial covering (masks) and washing of hands. Also, shoes. Don't forget about the shoes.. Keep the shoes outside or in the garage or someplace not in the house. :)
 

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Looks like May will be the month for re-opening for many states in the U.S. even thou most of those states if not all have not flattened the curve so to speak and none have met the 14 day downward trend as advised by the white house.

I just hope people wash their hands and do social distancing but knowing how people are, they will think state is open so we are back to normal and as a result will forget about social distancing, etc.

Time will tell but I suspect more cases will rise over the next few weeks and by the end of the month for those states that opened earlier when the curve is still going up, cases will increase by large numbers..

Hopefully it will not grow that much but we shall see.
 
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I agree. I talked to a lot of my friends who work in healthcare and they all say it is a mistake.

Just look at the graphs. None of the states opening have flattened the curve. None..

All of those states are still going up on the graph..

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34,129 new cases on May 1st alone for all the states. More details can be seen by going to graphic above or link here.
 
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As we all expected..

Nobody should be surprised by this.. Nobody..

from abc3030,

Texas hit a third straight day of more than 1,000 new coronavirus cases Saturday as the state charged into its first weekend of re-opening the economy with residents allowed to go back to malls, restaurants, movie theaters and retail stores in limited numbers. State health officials reported 1,293 new cases, the second-highest single-day infection rate, marking the first time the Texas has recorded more than 1,000 three days in a row.
 

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People don't realize that "opening" the state doesn't mean we are free to go back to normal, that the virus is gone. Far from it.

Unfortunately, more lives will get lost and more folks will get sick which in turn means the spread of the virus and this will only repeat..

from cnn,

"An influential coronavirus model often cited by the White House is now forecasting that 134,000 people will die of Covid-19 in the United States, nearly double its previous prediction.
The model, from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, had predicted 72,433 deaths as of Monday morning.
Relatedly, a Trump administration model projects a rise in coronavirus cases and deaths in the weeks ahead, up to about 3,000 daily deaths in the US by June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times. Over the past week, about 2,000 people died daily in the US, according to data from Johns Hopkins University."
 

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People don't realize that "opening" the state doesn't mean we are free to go back to normal, that the virus is gone. Far from it.

Unfortunately, more lives will get lost and more folks will get sick which in turn means the spread of the virus and this will only repeat..

from cnn,
So very true, and proven recently in California. This is going to go on for much lo get I believe, because people are so unresponsible. If people were capable of being responsible and taking precautions like safe distancing, wearing a mask, and not going to parties, nightclubs, Theaters, etc,and doing all the things they are accustomed to doing, this could end sooner with less lives lost.
 

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The Gov here in Missouri blew off the higher numbers and said that more and better testing was the cause for the increase... Hello... More cases are more cases... And more deaths are more deaths... He can sit in his echo chamber and open the state... Bet we won't see him at grave side... Local shop owners are placing "Enter At Your Own Risk" signs in their windows... Makes one wonder about human intelligence...
 

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Yeah, best for everybody to be extra cautious especially with all the states opening up. People are reckless.

I give you one example.

A friend of mine has a friend who is a girl and she is ok but her boyfriend tested postive. She told him, she would get grocery etc and drop it off.

You know what that guy did? He ignored her and went to grocery store to get supplies.

This is what I mean. People are reckless.

Stay home as much as possible and try to avoid going outside and if you do have to go outside, wash hands as much as possible and wear masks and keep distance as much as possible.

The faster people adhere to the steps necessary to avoid the virus, the faster the virus will go away.
 

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I am not surprised at all.

from fr24news,

"A new study found that 90% of people tested positive for coronavirus in the Mission District of San Francisco still leave their homes to go to work.
Researchers from the University of California at San Francisco launched a major testing effort in the Mission district last month in hopes of providing a complete picture of how COVID-19 is spread in the neighborhood."
 

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Interesting information Dr. Judy Moskovitz has to say about Dr. Anthony Fauci and others... Not going to post links... You will have to do your own due diligence and critical thinking...
 

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I personally don't see this as being any worse than the flu. The flu kills people... and especially older people. There have been around 62,000 deaths in the US due to the flu. We haven't quite reached that with this virus yet. However... I know for a fact that many of the virus deaths are misrepresented. We have close friends in the medical field that state whether they know for a fact that someone died of the virus, if they had it, they are instructed to report it as a virus caused death, even though they know it may not accurate. The reason for this is the medical facility gets a lot of money for it being a COVID related death.

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and get three times as much money if they need a ventilator. "How can anyone not believe that increasing the number of COVID-19 deaths may create an avenue for states to receive a larger portion of federal dollars. Already some states are complaining that they are not getting enough of the CARES Act dollars because they are having significantly more proportional COVID-19 deaths." On April 19, he doubled down on his assertion via video on his Facebook page.
Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're on Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

This is just one example... there are several medical professionals that have admitted to this. They are taking advantage of the aid money... it's just crazy how whacky the numbers are that make this virus look so much worse than what it is. I'm not saying it isn't bad... but in the end, I think we will see it is really no worse that the flu. It might be a bit more risky than the flu, simply because there is a vaccine for the flu, but there have still been more deaths from the flu this season than there have this virus... especially if you consider there is probably a significant percentage of reported COVID deaths that may not have been due to the virus.

Then you have to consider the suicide and drug overdose deaths caused by the actions of the states due to the virus. Many of the people who lost their jobs have turned to drinking and drugs, and there have been overdoses. And break-ins have gone way up, although overall crime is down.

Our numbers here in Alabama have been staggering low in comparison to many other states. The state opening back up on Monday. Still some restrictions... restaurants can only be at 50% capacity and tables must be at 6ft apart. Still no religious services because those can easily be done online with online participation.

I indeed think some common sense goes a long way with this ordeal. In the same way you wouldn't go see your parents or grandparents, or you wouldn't go the nursing home and visit folks if you had a cold or flu like symptoms... you don't do it with the virus symptoms. Better yet... to be on the safe side, just don't go at all right now. I agree that we need to stay at home for now, since we don't have the vaccine. That is the difference between this virus and the flu... on top of the virus being more contagious, or so it seems to be reported as such. Although the flu, even with the flu shot, has still caused more deaths than this virus this season. Consider if we did not have the flu shot how many would be sick and how many more might die from the flu. If we had a vaccine for this virus, consider how much less severe it might be than the flu.
 
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I can only say ....interesting....after months of the virus....today the first day I saw the media at the whitehouse press conference wear masks....and these press conferences have been going on daily....
 
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