Solution for Those that Want it: Sending all system sounds + music to audiolense convolver

mccarty350

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Have you made any progress in getting your system stabilized and working? What route did you take?
 

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Hi @mccarty350,

Thanks for asking ,yes I have, for a while now it is working, nearly, flawlessly. My savior was HLC. It is the only solution that is reproducibly stable. HLC let me route (virtual wiring) all the channels. More importantly it works perfectly with the RME ASIO drivers. You can checkout my posts and see.
The nearly is because my interface is fire wire and good old windows dropped the support for FF so I need to use legacy drivers that occasionally crash for 2-3 seconds. Hopefully an upgrade to RME UC that is USB based is coming soon.
 

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2234rew

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There are bugs but it works.

I have already been through your exact method and all known Windows methods.

In the end, much easier and more reliable to use macOS and get @Mitchco's HLC + free BlackHole virtual driver.

The experience is way way way better

That is bizarre, I swear, windows audio is full of such madness.

yes, other than for work, I will never have Windows in my personal life for audio & video ever again

And JRiver on Windows adds lip sync delay , it is not a (near) zero latency convolver

So not suitable for me for video with audio convolution - lip sync distracting
 

moedra

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I use HLC inside of its own desktop host - the one it installs. I use my Audiolense filters inside HLC via the cfg file, so it can switch the filter sample rates on the fly if they change.

In HLC host,
Audio device type: ASIO
Device: VoiceMeeter AUX Virtual ASIO

In Banana,
On the first virtual input, turn off A1, turn on B2
Set A1 output device to sound card. In my case it is my Solid State Logic ASIO Driver

Now, anything I want to send through the convolver, such as Windows output, Tidal, etc., is set to VoiceMeeter Input.

I have one computer on which the ASIO driver doesn't work, so I just use the Windows Audio driver with VB-Audio Hi-Fi Cable for this one and everything works fine. The setup is basically the same. The driver for HLC is Windows Audio. The Input is VoiceMeeter AUX Output. In Banana the audio device on A1 is KS: VB-Audio Hi-Fi Cable. The first virtual input on Banana is still set to B2 (A1 is turned off).

You can also use Kushview Element to do the same thing as the HLC host with the same setup configuration.
 

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Sony Bravia android TV
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RME FF400
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Marantz original 5E CD
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I use HLC inside of its own desktop host - the one it installs. I use my Audiolense filters inside HLC via the cfg file, so it can switch the filter sample rates on the fly if they change.

In HLC host,
Audio device type: ASIO
Device: VoiceMeeter AUX Virtual ASIO

In Banana,
On the first virtual input, turn off A1, turn on B2
Set A1 output device to sound card. In my case it is my Solid State Logic ASIO Driver

Now, anything I want to send through the convolver, such as Windows output, Tidal, etc., is set to VoiceMeeter Input.

I have one computer on which the ASIO driver doesn't work, so I just use the Windows Audio driver with VB-Audio Hi-Fi Cable for this one and everything works fine. The setup is basically the same. The driver for HLC is Windows Audio. The Input is VoiceMeeter AUX Output. In Banana the audio device on A1 is KS: VB-Audio Hi-Fi Cable. The first virtual input on Banana is still set to B2 (A1 is turned off).

You can also use Kushview Element to do the same thing as the HLC host with the same setup configuration.
What audio interface do you use? what is the advantage of VoiceMeter over VB-Audio?
I use LoopBeAudio and found it much better for then VB-cable, especially for multichannel audio but also more stable.
 

moedra

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What audio interface do you use? what is the advantage of VoiceMeter over VB-Audio?
I use LoopBeAudio and found it much better for then VB-cable, especially for multichannel audio but also more stable.
What audio interface do you use?
I have several, including an SSL 2+ and a Sound Blaster X7. While I love the X7, for some reason its ASIO buffer is "apparently" larger than 2048, because I get a warning saying so every time I select it in Banana. I do not remember how to change this buffer size, but in its current state the ASIO driver will not load as the output device.

What is the advantage of VoiceMeter over VB-Audio?
VB-Audio is the developer. VoiceMeeter is their software. There are three versions of it: VoiceMeeter, Banana, and Potato. It's basically a digital audio mixer/router. Cable and Hi-Fi Cable are also software from VB-Audio. Simpler, but neither of these route ASIO. For that you need ASIO Bridge, but I haven't had much luck getting that one to work properly. Banana works like a dream.

I will look at LoopBeAudio and see what that's all about.
 
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