Low SPL level measurement

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hi all,

I always have low SPL reading in my REW measurement to speakers, only getting range of 35 to 45dB while i see other are making beyond that, anybody can highlight to me what could be the cause of that. I am using Umik-1 with calibration file input into REW.
 

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That's closer to a background noise level than a measurement level. Assuming you can hear the sweep :) there may be a problem with your measurement setup. Easiest is probably to post an mdat file from a typical measurement.
 

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There might be a level control in your OS, not at nominal. On Mac take at look into AudioMidi Setup.
 

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That's closer to a background noise level than a measurement level. Assuming you can hear the sweep :) there may be a problem with your measurement setup. Easiest is probably to post an mdat file from a typical measurement.

Hi John,

Here's the mdat file. I run Pink PN for those measurement.
 

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You can use the RTA Appearance setting "Adjust RTA levels" to have REW shift the plot so it is more similar to the results that would be obtained with sweep measurements. When you use noise the energy is spread across the bandwidth of the signal, so though the overall SPL of the signal may be at 75 dB (say) the energy at any particular frequency is much lower. A sweep, in contrast, has the specified level at every frequency as it progresses through the measurement range, and gives the results you more typically see.
 

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You can use the RTA Appearance setting "Adjust RTA levels" to have REW shift the plot so it is more similar to the results that would be obtained with sweep measurements. When you use noise the energy is spread across the bandwidth of the signal, so though the overall SPL of the signal may be at 75 dB (say) the energy at any particular frequency is much lower. A sweep, in contrast, has the specified level at every frequency as it progresses through the measurement range, and gives the results you more typically see.

So there isn't anything wrong on my spl level output being low after measure?
 

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The posted file measurements were created used 'spectrum' mode. The 'RTA' mode should be used with the PinkPN signal.
 

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The posted file measurements were created used 'spectrum' mode. The 'RTA' mode should be used with the PinkPN signal.

jtalden,

I used PinkPN signal for the measurement, is there anywhere in REW I should correct my setting?
 

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..........When you use noise the energy is spread across the bandwidth of the signal, so though the overall SPL of the signal may be at 75 dB (say) the energy at any particular frequency is much lower.

John,

I have a question, when we run the measurement for each individual channel (speaker), do we level the volume up or down to SPL signal to 75dB or just a fix volume level to measure each speaker individually?
 

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A fixed volume is usually fine unless there are very large differences between speakers, as long as the input doesn't clip the results should be OK.
 
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