I can see both sides of this issue with the Chane L series delays. I have been able to be patient because I was not ready to upgrade. But if I were ready two years ago and received estimate after estimate on the time frame, and those dates kept on coming and going with no product, I confess I probably would have given up long ago and gone a different direction. OTOH it's hard to fault the guy for giving us the best product possible, even if it takes a couple years longer to get there. We are always the ones to complain about planned obsolescence of products (electronics in particular) and feeling the pressure to upgrade every other year when the next great thing hits the market. Hopefully the L series will be such that Jon doesn't feel the need to refresh it for quote some time. And for me the time frame is turning out about right But I do empathize with those who were put off for a long time.