The AV NIRVANA Speaker Evaluation Event - Speakers at $1,200 or Less (Preliminary)

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Sonnie

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Thanks Sonny. I actually was referring to the detailed graphs they publish on their better speakers and pro line.

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See the first reflection and sound power. You need it to look something like that. The DI is flat from about 800hz to 8khz which is great.

I wish more companies would give us this kind of data. It tells you a lot about a speaker in terms of what rooms it will work best in, how to set them up, etc.

Here is one for the JBL 8330 which was originally praised for having a flatter response than the waveguide speakers, but later disliked for having a poor power response. Beamwidth and DI aren’t the same but if one is flat the other has to be flat so it’s a valid point of comparison.
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You can see it’s not very flat pretty much anywhere. This kind of speaker would work poorly using aggressive toe (though interestingly enough most listeners in theaters would have been seriously off axis for them).
 

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603671B9-091A-476A-8413-8BF9761696B0.jpeg One more request.

Don’t know if it’s a great recording or a terrible recording of a piano but either way it’s particularly challenging for speakers to reproduce this cleanly. I suggest first listening on a good headphone rig to get what it’s supposed to sound like and hear the distortion in the recording vs what the speaker adds. I find it sounds good on headphones but many speakers sound blown playing it. It seems to have some content that just hits the right frequencies to challenge a lot of tweeters. I’d call this a congested recording that is made more congested by the harmonic distortion of many speakers.
 

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We should have time to do that... and I'd be interested in hearing it myself. The Klipsch are dead... so we can't do those, but the JBL's should be doable.
The Klipsch are dead? So it wasn't just aesthetic damage in shipping - something actually broke? Bummer.
 

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JTR Neosis 210RT
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JTR Neosis 110HT-SL
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JTR Captivator 2400 x6
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Yep... tweeter was not playing in the one that was damaged.

When they were originally shipped, I only received one speaker... and the other was reported delayed by the shipper (it must have really been destroyed). After a few days and no update on shipping, I had to get another one sent out. It did not arrive until this past Tuesday, so I didn't have time to check them out before we got the event going. However, it would not have mattered, as we wouldn't have had time to get another in here soon enough from the time we discovered it.
 

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View attachment 4666 One more request.

Don’t know if it’s a great recording or a terrible recording of a piano but either way it’s particularly challenging for speakers to reproduce this cleanly. I suggest first listening on a good headphone rig to get what it’s supposed to sound like and hear the distortion in the recording vs what the speaker adds. I find it sounds good on headphones but many speakers sound blown playing it. It seems to have some content that just hits the right frequencies to challenge a lot of tweeters. I’d call this a congested recording that is made more congested by the harmonic distortion of many speakers.
We'll have to see about using this at our next event.
 

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Intel NUC w/ Roon ROCK
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Panasonic UB9000 4K UHD Player (for media discs)
Front Speakers
RTJ 410
Center Channel Speaker
MartinLogan Focus C-18
Front Wide Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT
Surround Speakers
JTR Neosis 210RT
Surround Back Speakers
JTR Neosis 210RT
Front Height Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT-SL
Rear Height Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT-SL
Subwoofers
JTR Captivator 2400 x6
Other Speakers or Equipment
VTI Amp Stands for the Monoblocks
Video Display Device
Sony 98X90L
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Universal MX-890
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Sonnie

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Intel NUC w/ Roon ROCK
Universal / Blu-ray / CD Player
Panasonic UB9000 4K UHD Player (for media discs)
Front Speakers
RTJ 410
Center Channel Speaker
MartinLogan Focus C-18
Front Wide Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT
Surround Speakers
JTR Neosis 210RT
Surround Back Speakers
JTR Neosis 210RT
Front Height Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT-SL
Rear Height Speakers
JTR Neosis 110HT-SL
Subwoofers
JTR Captivator 2400 x6
Other Speakers or Equipment
VTI Amp Stands for the Monoblocks
Video Display Device
Sony 98X90L
Remote Control
Universal MX-890
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Lifetime Roon Subscription
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Zero Surge 8R15W-1 | Salamander Synergy Equipment Stand
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