Samsung and Amazon Announce Next Gen HDR Standard: HDR10+

Samsung and Amazon Announce Next Gen HDR Standard: HDR10+


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One of the biggest buzzwords in the video world has been HDR (otherwise known as High Dynamic Range), and it’s being pumped by nearly every television manufacturer on the planet. Truth be told, HDR is everything it’s said to be (and more), and when paired with wide color gamut consumers are finding a viewing experience that far eclipses the simple presence of more pixels on 4K televisions.

That’s a rosy picture to paint, but not everything is well in paradise. The good news is that manufacturers have proven they can support all available HDR standards on a single product. The bad news, however, is that average consumers are slowly being buried by a heap of terms that most likely make little sense and are rapidly evolving. We haven’t quite reached the ridiculous number of confusing Hi-Res audio formats available for consumption, but the display industry did exit CES 2017 with four different HDR standards.

HDR10 and Dolby Vision are the top two competing standards, and are the most widely recognized across the enthusiast landscape. HDR10 is an open standard that allows for content mastered with 1,000 nits of peak brightness and 10-bit color. Dolby Vision offers more performance (up to 10,000 nits of brightness and 12-bit color), but is a closed standard requiring licensing fees and a special hardware chip embedded within equipment. The other two standards (HLG and Advanced HDR) are more broadcast television focused.

Yesterday, Samsung and Amazon announced a fifth standard for high dynamic range called HDR10+. Much like HDR10, HDR10+ is an open standard; it’s due to be released later this year.

HDR10+ is essentially a new iteration of HDR10 that allows for “Dynamic Tone Mapping” through the inclusion of metadata. That gives HDR10+ the ability to shift brightness levels from scene to scene, something that HDR10 isn’t able to achieve (causing brief bright scenes in an HDR10 presentation to look significantly darker than intended). This addition brings its performance capabilities closer to Dolby Vision’s (but doesn’t change the fact that Dolby still holds the edge in peak brightness and total color).

“As an advanced HDR10 technology, HDR10+ offers an unparalleled HDR viewing experience — vivid picture, better contrast and accurate colors — that brings HDR video to life,” said Kyoungwon Lim, Vice President of Visual Display Division at Samsung Electronics. “We’re excited to work with world-class industry partners, including Amazon Video, to bring more amazing HDR content directly to our 2017 UHD TVs, including our QLED TV lineup.”

Tapping the power of HDR10+ most likely won’t require new equipment. Samsung says that HDR10+ is supported by all 2017 Samsung TVs, and that older (2016) HDR10 compatible TVs are eligible for a future HDR10+ firmware update (later this year). That leads one to believe that other manufacturers shipping HDR10 televisions will likely offer HDR10+ updates, too.

On most every measureable level this announcement is exciting, especially considering that HDR10+ has the potential to play nicely with older displays. If the industry can continue making single devices carrying broad HDR compatibility, then consumers will avoid the nightmare of understanding industry technologies and being forced to make specific hardware choices.

HDR10+ content will begin appearing on Amazon Prime later this year.
 
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While the sets may be able to use HDR+, getting it there with dynamic metadata will require HDMI 2.1. HDMI 2 only supports static metadata, at least by my reading of the specification. Regardless this is exciting news. HDR is moving closer to the capability of DolbyVision, while remaining an open standard and not requiring a special chip set.
 

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Leonard, while you're correct in saying that the HDMI 2.1 spec allows for dynamic HDR (among other improvements made capable by larger bandwidth), but Dolby Vision says it can pass dynamic metadata over HDMI 2.0...

Hmmm...

I'm not sure if they (Samsung) aren't revealing that 2017 TVs are shipping with HDMI 2.1 onboard (perhaps some 2016 TVs did also?)...

I'll snoop around
 
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DV can pass dynamic Metadata over HDMI currently because it is using their chip set that embeds it, as I understand it.
 

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I guess in this case, it really doesn't make much difference with the HDMI specifications, at least immediately. Samsung and Amazon are probably touting this capability and partnership based off the Samsung's in-TV Amazon video application and probably not going to apply to external sources at all.
 

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Just wait until HDMI 2.1 does become standard.

New cables!

Yuck
 
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If you connect direct to Amazon on the set HDMI should not matter. I don't think most people who are interested in that level of quality watch that way.
 

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Truth be told, HDR is everything it’s said to be (and more), and when paired with wide color gamut consumers are finding a viewing experience that far eclipses the simple presence of more pixels on 4K televisions.
Now I'm stoked! The two sides of that screen are almost night and day!
Do they mean to represent the "conventional" side as 4k technology, or something earlier?
 

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I would assume standard 4K...

Definitely a great reason to be stoked. This tech is truly ground breaking!
 

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DV can pass dynamic Metadata over HDMI currently because it is using their chip set that embeds it, as I understand it.

This is true... DV has its own chipset. But the HDMI 2.0 pipeline / chipset is still a potential limiting factor between a device and a display. My understanding is that Dolby figured out a way to transmit dynamic metadata over the old HDMI 1.4b specification. The fact that most DV content is 4K (and could have HDCP 2.2 woven into the equation) requires 2.0a to be usable between a device and display... Dolby just jumped ahead of the game.

As for HDR10+... the firmware most likely affects factors outside of HDMI, since Prime is an onboard streaming app (as you point out!:T).

I've streamed 4K/HDR 10 off Prime and it looks ridiculously good... totally makes my eyes happy. I look forward to seeing how HDR10+ performs.
 

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What do you think? By 2019 everything will be turned up side down with all the new tech that's out making it not a good time to buy new now? Wait??
 

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Here's my thinking:

1) Yes, the industry is going to continue to force change. And the change that's coming is going to require some investment to stay current.

2) The technology that's available now is ridiculously good. And even though we're staring at disruptive tech (such as HDMI 2.1), buying now and enjoying what's currently possible is a pretty good option.
 

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I am always looking for a new, better TV and as the new sets pop out, I start drooling. My problem is I am current with technology. If tech wasn't going to change in 3 or 4 years, I would be looking but it looks like maybe next year or the year following there might be some major changes.

We live in fun times for AV enthusiast.
 

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It's hard to know how fast that new tech is going to roll out...

Obviously, you don't want to buy new gear that's outdated before you even crack the box. That was the case for AVRs a few years ago. HDMI 2.0 was in the process of rolling out... 4K was in the process of rolling out... Atmos was in the process of rolling out... and the AVR manufacturers couldn't keep up with the rapid changes. I know as a fact that they were frustrated.

I'm not so sure we're in a trap period like that. Keep in mind that the video side of this equation is beholden to bandwidth. And it's going to take a long time to get that squared away.

Last year I brought an OLED into the family room. Great decision. It's amazing TV.

If you're truly on the fence, call up Robert Zohn at Value Electronics and talk it with him. He knows the industry, industry insiders, and the technologies upside down and backwards. He'll give you good advice (and he's great to buy from... can't speak highly enough about Robert's independent store).
 

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Yes, I agree. Robert was great to buy from. I have ordered and had calibrated Samsung's F8500 plasma, the 78JS9500 and LG's OLED 55E6.

The OLED was for the bedroom, perfect TV for the room. It's the JS9500 I would change out. It's in an area that needs the brightness of the LED. I have heard the new Q9 can hit 2000 nits. Got to have those nits:). But as soon as I order, the next new TV coming on the market will have 4000 nits. Just can't keep up.

I'll send Robert a note. Todd, good call.
 
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