Need help with REW EQ settings for mains

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Hi There,
REW software is awesome. Enjoying the experience learning how to use it.

I have managed to get a good setting for my 2 x SVS PB4000 and now want to EQ my mains and integrate them with the subs.
See attachment showing the settings that I used to Eq the subs, I searched the internet and found these settings as recommended by the Home Theater Gamer

I have not been able to find a recommendation for EQ settings for my mains and would appreciate any advice or suggested settings.
All my source material is played back via a HTPC with a dedicated Asus Essence STX 7.1 sound card.

I have ASIO4ALL installed as well as FlexASIO 1.7a

Can you also advise when creating EQ’s should I have REW setup to use JAVA and take a sweep of all speakers together with the subs switched off in the MiniDSP 10x10 or should I be using Flex and take a sweep of all speakers separately and EQ each individually or pair them off and EQ (ie Fronts, Center and Rears)

I also understand that my receiver should be set to either 7.1 Channel (Analog connection) or all Channel Stereo mode (Digital Connection) to avoid the Receiver doing any processing ?
Looking forward to your reply so that I can move forward with turning
Thanks in Advance
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The graph is not showing EQ settings (I assume you mean by that, EQ filters?), just the sub’s frequency response measurement (presumably after EQ).

There is no such thing as “recommended” EQ settings for the main speakers. That would be determined by frequency response measurements, from which parametric EQ settings could be ascertained, if needed.

It’s really not a job that should be undertaken by a novice because it’s easy to screw up. For most people, it’s best to simply use your AVR’s processor’s auto-EQ feature.

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I guess what I am actually asking is for suggested or recommended settings for the "Target Settings" within the EQ Window for the mains only
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There’s not much to it, really. After you get your subwoofer equalized, just blend it in with the mains so that it sounds right – not weak, not exaggerated either. Typically this will result in the sub’s C-weighed SPL being several dB higher than the main speakers.

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There’s not much to it, really. After you get your subwoofer equalized, just blend it in with the mains so that it sounds right – not weak, not exaggerated either. Typically this will result in the sub’s C-weighed SPL being several dB higher than the main speakers.

Regards,
Wayne

@pidge ask a question I always wanted to ask. My receiver gieve me the possibility to manually set 10 filters for each channels. I have a minidsp 2x4hd for the sub only. I choosed a harman curve kind of for the sub and tried the the same for the mains and surround.
Instead of that do you suggest to EQ the sub as flat as possible and do not EQ the main when set to small with a xo of 80Hz?
 

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Thanks Wayne, Yes thats where I am now, I have a low shelf rise of 6db from 100hz with a .5 Q for the subs in the MiniDSP10x10
I am happy with the improvement but as stated earlier I now want check my mains (up to say 250Hz) and then integrate with the subs
.

Which brings me back to my original question "what I am actually asking is for is suggested or recommended settings for the "Target Settings" within the EQ Window for the mains only"
Thanks again
Pidge
 

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Thanks Wayne, Yes thats where I am now, I have a low shelf rise of 6db from 100hz with a .5 Q for the subs in the MiniDSP10x10
I am happy with the improvement but as stated earlier I now want check my mains (up to say 250Hz) and then integrate with the subs
.

Which brings me back to my original question "what I am actually asking is for is suggested or recommended settings for the "Target Settings" within the EQ Window for the mains only"
Thanks again
Pidge

If you're trying to EQ your main channels, it’s pretty much like doing the sub: The Target should be mid-point between the worse peak(s) and depression(s). If the Target is too high or too low, then the equalization ends up not correcting anomalies, but working as a level-control to raise or lower the overall curve, accomplished with a whole slew of unnecessary filters.

Since you’re not dealing with anything about ~250 Hz, it’s fine to EQ the channels individually. Above that point you can do individual channels, except that the main left and right should be EQ’d together with matching filters.

The above applies to manual equalization. If you’re using an automated system, I have no experience with those and can’t advise you specifically. But I don’t see why the same procedures wouldn’t deliver satisfactory results.

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Wayne
 

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Yamaha YDP2006 Digital Parametric EQ (front mains)
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Yamaha YDP2006 Digital Parametric EQ (sub)
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@pidge ask a question I always wanted to ask. My receiver gieve me the possibility to manually set 10 filters for each channels. I have a minidsp 2x4hd for the sub only. I choosed a harman curve kind of for the sub and tried the the same for the mains and surround.
Instead of that do you suggest to EQ the sub as flat as possible and do not EQ the main when set to small with a xo of 80Hz?
I’ve never been a proponent of “one size fits all” curves like the Harman. The ideal curve varies from one room to the next and is primarily determined by room size and your distance from the speakers.

You can certainly start by EQing the sub flat. However, if you feel the lowest notes are lacking, then try a house curve. You can do a search to find an article I did on the subject posted on another forum.

Regards,
Wayne
 
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