To fend off Netflix, movie theaters try 3-screen immersion

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from yahoo,

"Sit at the back of the movie theater, and it's possible to see the appeal of ScreenX, the latest attempt to drag film lovers off the sofa and away from Netflix.

Instead of one screen, there are three - one at the front, and two on the sides - to add to the immersive experience you can't get from the home TV.

First adopted in South Korea in 2012, the system is being launched in the U.K. and theater chain Cineworld plans to add over 100 new screens to the worldwide count of 151."

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Any thoughts?
 

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Wow... just wow. I really wonder if they think things thru before they act sometimes. Reminds me of the argument I got into over at the previous forum with an industry insider on how 3D was a fad and it will die off.
 

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yeah, I don't see this going over too well. lol.
 

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It looks like a poor approach to this. You could just as easily create a large wrap around screen and digitally blend the three projectors to create a seamless image. That’s what they do with simulators. I don’t really see why this is even a thing.

I was reading through the posts on MoviePass where people made jokes about its likely demise. I noted one very good post that basically said the demise of MoviePass is proof that theaters could succeed if they lowered pricing. The fact that a $10 a month subscription for movies went out of business because too many people went to the movies too frequently does tell you that he main thing holding back bigger audiences is cost. Honestly if a movie was $3 or if a monthly pass was $10, I would probably go to the movies a lot more.

I know this isn’t the reason for most people not going to theaters, but i also dislike the quality. The video and audio quality is often poor. The number of Dolby theaters around me is small, and of the ones we have in the Chicago area, it’s only one or two screens. If the movie I’m interested in watching isn’t playing in that theater, oh well.

I say stop with the gimmicks and focus on quality and experience. I want better sound, better video, and to feel like I’m getting a special experience.
 

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If you add ticket price, food/drink price, etc. it is very expensive for a family. Really, I only go if it is a big blockbuster that is a must see otherwise, I wait for blu ray.
 

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I must say I stopped going to the cinema due to the excessive noise level and poor sound equalisation. I doubt they looked at frequency response in the theatres and simply turn it up to eleven to compensate.
 

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Yeah, I don't see the appeal.

Maybe I'm spoiled. Most of the theaters here in Lincoln, NE have good sound and picture, with several Atmos theaters with enormous screens, way bigger than what is pictured above. Some have powered reclining loungers.

That said, the bass in my humble home theater is far better in both quality and quantity. Why? Because my room is 1400 sq ft, not 14,000.
 

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Yeah, I don't see the appeal.

Maybe I'm spoiled. Most of the theaters here in Lincoln, NE have good sound and picture, with several Atmos theaters with enormous screens, way bigger than what is pictured above. Some have powered reclining loungers.

That said, the bass in my humble home theater is far better in both quality and quantity. Why? Because my room is 1400 sq ft, not 14,000.

Most commercial cinemas have a lot of bass if they are of the newest types from IMAX and Dolby, but even the best of them have little output below 25hz. I've heard some pretty bombastic bass in commercial cinemas, but certainly, it sounds different. That standard approach to bass in commercial cinema's today has evolved quite a bit and is now using multiple subwoofers around the room. Often the surrounds have subs below them at periodic locations as well as an array of subs up front. It's not uncommon to have 10-20 18" sub drivers in a single space. They are more than capable or producing in excess of 115dB's output between 30hz and 80hz, many can do that down to 25hz or even lower. For example, some cinema's have Danley subs, those can certainly do even more below 30hz. They may also use subs based on the newest high excursion drivers from JBL, B&C, or BMS. These often have 15-20mm of xmax and a high 90's sensitivity. This became a huge debate at a local event recently, people arguing that cinemas should switch to high xmax car or home sub drivers such as those from SI. I was fairly sure the low sensitivity would cause those drivers to way under-perform in a large room. It turned out that I was not able to get a beastly SI 24" driver into a commercial cinema space, but I was able to test a new local cinema that had around 16x individual 18" drivers from JBL from their top subs. These subs have something like 18mm of xmax. Using pure tones and ground plane measurement in the cinema itself, I was able to achieve the maximum output the system would allow. The subs never exceeded distortion thresholds while exceeding 120dB's at all frequencies down to 16hz. In fact, I hit over 130dB's at some frequencies. It made me realize that modern Cinema's with the best modern cinema speakers are actually putting out some pretty serious bass.

I am still not a huge fan of the overall sound/tonal balance. I actually took a lot of measurements that day and even listened to some music while I was in the cinema. I was left a bit unimpressed, and sadly, it seemed easily fixable. The biggest issues were poor response shape and obvious comb filtering. Commercial Cinema's should look into better screen materials, I suspect, and pay more attention to diffraction (again, just a suspicion). The Acoustics were also not great, the RT60 should have been flat around 1 second or less. They accept a sloped shape in commercial cinema's, but really, no reason it should or needs to be that way. This particular (and brand new state of the art space) was actually not very good. Uneven and poor shape with a general smile shape.

As for video, really? I've been so underwhelmed by the contrast ratio and black levels as of late. I feel like it's gotten much worse than it used to be? Doesn't it bother you? The new AMC Dolby cinemas have been the best I've seen so far and even they aren't great (Not JVC good). A few times were so bad I honestly wondered if something was setup wrong (As in there are no consumer projectors with black levels this bad), it looked like someone jacked up the brightness and raised the black level artificially.
 

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The last movie I saw was Solo: A Star Wars Story. I thought it looked great on the "SuperScreen℠ DLX". It won't match our Plasma / OLED at home in color and contrast, but for a projection that large I thought it was great. I don't know what kind of hardware they are using.

I was not impressed by the bass. It was definitely lacking below 30Hz.
 

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Just MO... but my recent experiences at both Dolby Theaters and ArcLight have both been exceptional. I'm not sure they need to deploy anything more than just a competent and comfortable experience!
 

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Yeah, I don't see the appeal.

Maybe I'm spoiled. Most of the theaters here in Lincoln, NE have good sound and picture, with several Atmos theaters with enormous screens, way bigger than what is pictured above. Some have powered reclining loungers.

That said, the bass in my humble home theater is far better in both quality and quantity. Why? Because my room is 1400 sq ft, not 14,000.

We are fortunate here in Lincoln in that regard, Bass in theaters, as Matt says, is rolled off higher to prevent audio bleed-through into other theater rooms.

I do like this particular theater, my best experience yet outside of the IMAX at the Henry Doorly Zoo..

"We're open again with 100% DreamLounger leather recliners, including our spectacular SuperScreen DLX auditoriums with Dolby Atmos sound!"

http://www.marcustheatres.com/theatre-locations/south-pointe-cinema-lincoln
 

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I'm feeling like maybe I need to give this SuperScreen DLX experience a listen/view. I've never even heard of it until now. I wonder what kind of projectors and speakers they use?
 

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No idea, but it is very bright and very loud. :T

As an aside, who is the Director of Emojis here? The popcorn smiley is missing. Inexcusable on a forum such as this.
 

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No idea, but it is very bright and very loud. :T

As an aside, who is the Director of Emojis here? The popcorn smiley is missing. Inexcusable on a forum such as this.

I’m going to see if I can find out. I’m very curious.

As for director of emojis, it’s @Sonnie. Not sure he chooses the emojis though, might be canned in the product we use for the site.
 

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You mean this one... :popcorn:

Might need a little work on it.
 

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