Delay Too Large - Error when aligning phase slopes

Uniquorn

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Marantz SR7012
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miniDSP 2x4 HD
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Dali Zensor 7
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Dali Zensor Vokal
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Dali Zensor Pico
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Dali Zensor 1
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2 x Arendal 1961 1S
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Umik-1
Has anyone came across the "delay too large" errors in the attached screenshots before? I'm getting them whilst trying to integrate my subs with my fronts at various crossovers (using this guide:
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This is following subs being time-aligned with each other, PEQ'd, and then Audyssey ran.

I'm using a miniDSP 2x4 HD, and everything's cabled - no wireless transmitters.
 

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Jack1949

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Yamaha RX-A3040
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KING 5-CHerry Amp - Digital Amplifier Co.
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Oppo BDP-103D
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JTR 210RT
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JTR 210RM
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Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers with RAAL
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Polk Audio RT55i
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Polk Audio RT35i
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Dual JTR 118HT
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miniDSP 2x4 HD
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Samsung UN60H6350
If you move the Delay slider bar to the max left and right, you'll see that the Delay range is -50 to 50 ms. The error message indicates that the amount of delay required (-81.5 ms for the 80.1hz crossover) is out of REW's range.

The REW help page states: "The Align phase at cursor button calculates the measurement 2 delay required to bring both phase traces as close as possible to each other around the frequency of the cursor in the phase trace graph. Note that a better overall alignment might be achieved by inverting one of the measurements and then aligning phase, and/or by manually adjusting the delay."

Check the sub's Invert polarity box and try the alignment again. Don't know if this will help or not, but it's worth a try. If it resolves the error message and REW provides the delay, then you'll also need to invert the sub in your AVR, along with adjusting the delay.
 
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