REW Beta Release REW macOS DMG (includes private Java 8 JRE) V5.20 RC5

[pinox67]

I think I found the cause of this. It appears to be a side-effect of the workaround to cope with format or sample rate changes being made in Audio Midi Setup while REW is running, but would only occur for interfaces that show both inputs and outputs in a single entry in Audio Midi Setup and when the generator was started before the RTA. I'm guessing that CoreAudio actually starts input and output for those interfaces when the generator starts (there is a prompt to allow mic access on starting the generator) which triggers the issue. All appears to be OK if the RTA is started first. I have disabled the Audio Midi Setup change workaround in beta 61.

I’ve tried the same measurements with the last release. Great! All works fine now.
Thank you very much for your prompt resolution

 

[sam_adams]

There doesn't seem to be a way to alter the CoreAudio buffer size through the OS. but applications can alter it. There is a mention here of using LogicX to alter the buffer size and that change applying globally, and Native Instruments have a set of mac recommendations and tips here. Strange that my old Mac mini works without issue, but perhaps the OS uses a larger default buffer size for older hardware. I may be able to add a setting to the info.plist to encourage the OS to use a larger buffer size, I will look into that.

I tried those tips in the second link at the time, also. Those didn't solve the issue either. Many years ago DigiDesign used to include a Core Audio Manager in ProTools to adjust those values. Sadly, it was not a standalone program.

 

[elijahscott1982]

I cant seem to get Mac to load this says error for java. Im on the newest 10.15.7 software. Everything was working yesterday after I updated my computer now it won't load. What else can I try?

 

[John Mulcahy]

I cant seem to get Mac to load this says error for java. Im on the newest 10.15.7 software. Everything was working yesterday after I updated my computer now it won't load. What else can I try?

Could try uninstalling and reinstalling REW. There is an uninstaller in the REW folder in Applications.

 

[elijahscott1982]

Could try uninstalling and reinstalling REW. There is an uninstaller in the REW folder in Applications.

tried multiple times it won't instal and gives me a error file that shows this.

Exception:

java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.install4j.runtime.beans.screens.SystemFormScreen
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.frontend.GUIHelper.invokeOnEDT(GUIHelper.java:750)
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.config.AbstractBeanConfig.finishBatch(AbstractBeanConfig.java:54)
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.ContextImpl.registerScreens(ContextImpl.java:732)
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.controller.Controller.start(Controller.java:94)
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.Installer.runInProcess(Installer.java:61)
at com.install4j.runtime.installer.Installer.main(Installer.java:46)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
at com.exe4j.runtime.LauncherEngine.launch(LauncherEngine.java:84)
at com.install4j.runtime.launcher.MacLauncher.main(MacLauncher.java:52)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.install4j.runtime.beans.screens.SystemFormScreen
at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredMethods(Class.java:2701)
at java.lang.Class.privateGetPublicMethods(Class.java:2902)
at java.lang.Class.getMethods(Class.java:1615)
at com.sun.beans.finder.MethodFinder$1.create(MethodFinder.java:54)
at com.sun.beans.finder.MethodFinder$1.create(MethodFinder.java:49)
at com.sun.beans.util.Cache.get(Cache.java:126)
at com.sun.beans.finder.MethodFinder.findMethod(MethodFinder.java:81)
at java.beans.Statement.getMethod(Statement.java:357)
at java.beans.Statement.invokeInternal(Statement.java:261)
at java.beans.Statement.access$000(Statement.java:58)
at java.beans.Statement$2.run(Statement.java:185)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

 

[Chuck Zwicky]

Hi John,

Having some problems with the scope function.. it worked once, but the trigger point kept jumping around in the trigger settings menu..

I could not get it to work until I rebooted several times, but eventually it just stopped working at all..

ALSO:

The beta install is somewhat suspect:

 

[John Mulcahy]

tried multiple times it won't instal and gives me a error file that shows this.

Exception:

java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.install4j.runtime.beans.screens.SystemFormScreen

I just tried updating to 10.15.7, REW worked normally afterwards so not sure what can have happened. May be worth opening a terminal window and typing printenv to see if there are any Java-related environment variables listed, something may have persisted from 10.15.6 that needs to be set differently for 10.15.7.

 

[John Mulcahy]

Hi John,

Having some problems with the scope function.. it worked once, but the trigger point kept jumping around in the trigger settings menu..

I think I have fixed that for the next beta. Java on MacOS has some odd behaviours on value changes that can be difficult to deal with.

The beta install is somewhat suspect

In what way is it suspect? V5.20 is a folder application for ease of access to the uninstaller, which allows preferences to be deleted when uninstalling if desired - that wouldn't happen with an application bundle.

 

[SRLive]

Hi, I'm trying to update my old beta 45 on Mojave and still struggle to get past the license agreement. I remember I had this issue and don't remember what I did to install the old one... I disabled every manager light better snap tool, bartender, my UPDD daemon and the accessibility preferences, still no success.

EDIT : well, it got past. Just had to wait more than 10 minutes but it finally got it done while looking frozen...
Sorry for the unusefull post

 

[John Mulcahy]

John Mulcahy updated REW macOS DMG (includes private Java 8 JRE) with a new update entry:

REW V5.20 pre release macOS DMG

This is the pre-release of V5.20, changes compared to the last beta are:

• Enabled the Pro upgrades menu (note that the miniDSP UMIK-X multichannel mic array includes a pro upgrade license)
• Append "SPL Logger" to window title for SPL Logger to distinguish it from SPL meter title
• Bug fix: DCX equaliser setting had 6th order BU and LR filters, they should be 8th order
• Bug fix: If the...

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[pinox67]

Hi John,
I've just downloaded V5.20 prerelease on my MacBook Pro (Catalina 10.15.6).
I've found these problems (I don't known if they are already present in the previous releases):

1. Scope:
It seems it has the same sync problems of RTA that I summarised in my previous post: sometime it shows something but others, with the same input by Signal Generator, it does not show nothing. The sound card is the RME Adi2 pro, set at 192KHz.

2. RT60 Decay:
When I move the mouse left and right (also very slowly) in the waterfall to see dynamically "a section" of it in the upper diagram, very often REW stops working (or it becomes very very slow) after some time (one minute or less). I've to force quit to exit. I suspect it is connected to memory usage.

And a suggestion:
Like in the Signal Generator window there is the possibility to select the output channel(s), it would be useful if there was in the RTA window the possibility to select the input channel.

Regards,
Pino

 

[John Mulcahy]

tried multiple times it won't instal and gives me a error file that shows this.

Exception:

java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.install4j.runtime.beans.screens.SystemFormScreen

The good folk at ej technologies, who make the installer, believe the problem is due to this Java runtime bug: Docked MacBook cannot start any Java Swing applications. If that is the case then it may work if undocked, or if REW is started before docking. As a more permanent solution I have made a test build that uses a more recent JRE that hopefully does not have this bug. It is a larger download, as the JRE has some features REW doesn't use, but otherwise it should work. It is available here: REW macOS JRE test

 

[John Mulcahy]

2. RT60 Decay:
When I move the mouse left and right (also very slowly) in the waterfall to see dynamically "a section" of it in the upper diagram, very often REW stops working (or it becomes very very slow) after some time (one minute or less). I've to force quit to exit. I suspect it is connected to memory usage.

I have tracked down the cause of that and updated the macOS JRE test build linked in the previous post with a fix, please try that version.

 

[Chuck Zwicky]

What are these colorful bar graphs at the bottom of every measurement in the latest Beta?

 

[Chuck Zwicky]

Latest Beta has some triggering issues in the scope under OSX (see attached video

 

[John Mulcahy]

What are these colorful bar graphs at the bottom of every measurement in the latest Beta?

Modal resonance lines, there is an option in the graph controls to show them or not.

 

[John Mulcahy]

Latest Beta has some triggering issues in the scope under OSX

You have Auto trigger selected.

 

[Chuck Zwicky]

You have Auto trigger selected.

Auto disengaged:

 

[John Mulcahy]

Auto disengaged:

The hysteresis is a bit high but that is odd behaviour. Is it specific to that signal? If you feed in a square wave from the generator do you get consistent triggering? What is the sample rate, and is REW set to the same rate as the interface?

 

[Chuck Zwicky]

Yes the interface and REW were both set to the same rate.. I played with the trigger threshold and hysteresis no no avail, almost looks like a clocking or buffering issue. Will try a lower sample rate...

 

[pinox67]

I have tracked down the cause of that and updated the macOS JRE test build linked in the previous post with a fix, please try that version.

Hi John,
With JRE test RT60 Graph now works well, without any block, very good!
I've to test now the Scope with some measures.
Pino

 

[John Mulcahy]

John Mulcahy updated REW macOS DMG (includes private Java 8 JRE) with a new update entry:

REW V5.20 RC2 macOS DMG

Updates in V5.20 release candidate 2:

• Added an option to average each UMIK-X array when making multi-channel measurements with UMIK-X
• Reduce RT60 Decay waterfall drawing load by not fading whole image
• Bug fix: Workaround for JDK bug https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8223158 on macOS by using JetBrains JRE
• Bug fix: RT60 Decay graph used excessive memory on macOS
• Bug fix: If using ASIO with a USB mic connected but no ASIO input selection made would get...

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[John Mulcahy]

John Mulcahy updated REW macOS DMG (includes private Java 8 JRE) with a new update entry:

REW V5.20 RC3 macOS DMG

This is the 3rd and, ever optimistically, final V5.20 release candidate. Feature additions have been kept to a minimum, but there are some:

• There is now an export menu entry to export the RT60 data for all current measurements as text to individual files or to a combined file. Data is only exported if it has been generated (which happens when it is first viewed), a quick way to generate the RT60 data for all measurements is to view the Overlay RT60 graph.
• The limited range of...

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[John Mulcahy]

John Mulcahy updated REW macOS DMG (includes private Java 8 JRE) with a new update entry:

REW V5.20 RC4 macOS DMG

Seems like only yesterday I was hoping RC3 would be the last V5.20 release candidate :/. Here we are with RC4 and two more bug fixes:

• Generating min phase response from Impulse graph could cause an exception
• Soundcard calibration could get stuck at "Calculating impulse response" during card response measurement

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[greatadrian]

Hi John,

During more testing of the latest version, I've noticed that when using "Export all impulse responses as WAV", setting "Export Min Phase version of IR" doesn't have an effect.
Exported files have an "-MP" suffix, however, IR's are not a minimum phase.