Need Help to explain weird impulse responses.

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Hi,

I am helping a friend to set up is 6.1 system. His speakers are all old Yamaha models (2005 issh don't know which model).
Trying to time align the speakers, I wanted to check if distances were correct. Looking at impulses seems kaput for me. Never saw that before.
Did I make a mistake taking measurements?
Did you ever saw this?
How to explaine it?
Is there a cure?
...
Will I lose my friend???
 

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John Mulcahy

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The centre looks OK, the others look odd. Do some of the speakers have more than one tweeter? Were any other speakers playing at the same time?
 

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No only one at a time. Only 1 tweeter quite sure of that. It is not a high end system. Here what I found:


Yamaha - 6.1-Channel Home Theater Speaker System - Silver​

Model:NS-FP9500
  • Number of Speakers per Package
    6 + subwoofer
  • Maximum Power Handling
    120W per channel
  • <a href="javascript:winopengld('1087340578114','pcmcat38200050027','cat12080')">Frequency Response</a>
    100Hz - 40kHz
  • Tweeter Size
    3/4" dome
  • Midrange
    4" pulp cone
  • Subwoofer
    8", 130W
  • Woofer
    4" pulp cone
  • Connector Type
    5-way binding posts
  • Magnetically Shielded
    Yes
  • UPC
    027108103860

I am just an amateur. Those impulses seem to say that the speakers internal circuit is broken? Even I can get a SPL graph responses? I can't find where is the impulse of speakers other than center?.

Does impuls indicate broken speakers?
 

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here it is
 

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Nothing attached, probably too large. Save a few of the measurements in individual mdat files and attach those.
 

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our posts crossed I think
 

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I don't see anything suggesting there are any problems with the speakers, just a bit of distortion around 2 - 5 kHz for arr D and arr G. There do seem to be a lot of very strong reflections though, does the room have a lot of hard surfaces or large windows?
 

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B&W HTM4D2
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All The speakers are placed at the worst place possible in his room very near a wall for all except the center., WAF factor...
Maybe bad connections to the receiver or the speakers?
 

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B&W 804 D2
Center Channel Speaker
B&W HTM4D2
Surround Speakers
B&W 705
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SVS PC-2000 and SVS PC-2000 Pro
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Samsung UN55ES8000
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We will try 2 desktop speakers next week and learn !
 
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