Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3070 AV Receiver Review

Manufacturer & Model
Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3070 AV Receiver
MSRP
$2,200
Link
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/index.html
Highlights
Flagship immersive sound performance at a competitive price, high-end audio processing for crystal clear sound, robust amp section, wide range of connectivity including eight HDMI and stereo XLR inputs, fully compatible with current 4K HDR video demands, wireless performance includes Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and Yamaha’s MusicCast, capable of being a hub of a whole home music system.
Summary
The RX-A3070 is Yamaha’s newest consumer oriented flagship AVR and is capable of running a stunning high-end 7.1.4 audio experience. The receiver is compliant with modern 4K video technologies, making it possible to integrate with all 4K televisions and video sources. Yamaha’s easy-to-use on-screen menu interface and smartphone apps deliver a smooth user experience, allowing easy access and management of a multitude of sources. Onboard wireless functionality (including Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and MusicCast) and the addition of TIDAL and Deezer make audio streaming a snap. Performance wise, the RX-A3070 can power an amazing immersive audio home theater experience.
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It’s always fun to unwrap a new flagship receiver, especially when it’s stamped with a Yamaha badge. Three years ago, I had the privilege of taking the company’s revolutionary RX-A3050 AVR for an Atmos test drive and it literally blew the doors off my reference home theater. Much has transpired in the tech realm since the A3050’s launch, but the importance of that particular model won’t soon be forgotten. It single handedly pierced a rather stagnant receiver market, introducing reasonably future proof 4K video capabilities while offering full 11-channel Atmos processing (a pairing not available in the sub-$2,500 category until its release).

Over the last three years, new HDR technologies have arrived, DTS:X was officially born, and wireless media has become a strong consumer preference. And while older generations of HDMI 2.0 capable gear have been kept fresh through firmware updates, this year’s class of receivers are the most advanced we’ve ever seen (particularly on the video side of the equation).


Yamaha’s New Statement Piece
True to its reputation, Yamaha’s 2017 AVENTAGE lineup is loaded with cutting-edge performance at extremely competitive price points. In fact, the line’s entry level AVR hit store shelves with a $600 price tag, which is $50 less than its 2016 predecessor. The RX-A3070 (subject of this review) is priced at $2,200 MSRP ($1,999 street) and now serves as Yamaha’s flagship consumer-oriented AVR. It sports nine onboard amps, 11.2-channels of audio processing, multitudes of connectivity, and is the only AVENTAGE receiver capable of orchestrating DTS:X and Dolby Atmos performances with a full 7.2.4 speaker arrangement (note: Yamaha's CX-A1500 and MX-A5000 preamp/amp models offer this kind of performance, but are designed and marketed to professional installers). Much like the previous two AVENTAGE flagship models, the A3070 requires a two-channel outboard amp to push that kind of audio show, but owners short on rack space can connect 11 speakers to the RX-A3070 (the receiver’s onboard control switches power between surround back and rear presence speakers depending on the demands of an input signal).

If true 11-channel processing is less of a desire, enthusiasts strictly interested in a nine-channel (7.1.2) system can save roughly $500 and reach for Yamaha’s RX-A2070. However, the A2070 delivers slightly less power and is outfitted with step-down audio conversion chips.


Build Features
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The RX-A3070’s amp section is rated at a healthy 150 Watts per channel (8 ohms, two channels driven). While that kind of output might not match more robust performance numbers claimed by pricier competing models, the A3070 is confidently capable of driving full complements of reasonably demanding speakers to clean sounding reference levels.

Yamaha’s quest for great sound begins with carefully crafted physical design elements, such as an aluminum front panel to shield the A3070’s innards from exterior noise contaminants. The company has also incorporated newly designed feet to eliminate intrusive vibrations, a rock-solid double-bottom chassis, and an AVENTAGE staple: the signature “fifth foot.” For those unfamiliar, the foot is a centrally mounted underbelly wedge that dampens vibrations emanating from internal componentry and external sources.

The receiver’s robust physical foundation plays host to a veritable plethora of advanced AV tech. Owners will appreciate the A3070’s eight HDMI inputs (two outputs), all of which accommodate HDCP 2.2, HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG, and wide color gamut 4K video (Dolby Vision and HLG support require a firmware update expected to drop later this year). Other notable forms of connectivity include USB, phono, and a host of analog and digital inputs. Yamaha has also included RCA multi-channel outputs and balanced XLR stereo inputs. Of course, those looking to avoid wires will like the inclusion of Wi-Fi, AirPlay, and Bluetooth connectivity.


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The front side of the receiver doesn’t deviate from the last two RX-A flagship receivers. It features an easy-to-ready dimmable LCD display, large source selection and volume knobs, and an attractive flip down cover that conceals various controls. Those controls include multi-zone, radio preset and tuning, and various menu navigation buttons (among others). You’ll also find handy auxiliary RCA and HDMI inputs.

Internally, Yamaha has packed the RX-A3070 with a robust power supply system that’s symmetrically aligned for exacting isolation. And the receiver’s multi-channel digital to analog conversion is handled by one of two ESS Technology chips (ES9026PRO SABRE or ES9006 ULTRA DAC) mated to Yamaha’s proprietary DAC on Pure Ground technology for reduced ground noise and enhanced audio reproduction.


Performance Technologies
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As mentioned, the RX-A3070 is fully capable of handling all current 4K UHD video demands (with the notable additions of Dolby Vision and HLG High Dynamic Range coming via a firmware update by the end of 2017). It also ships with both DTS:X and Dolby Atmos audio decoding onboard and ready for use, in addition to a host of proprietary DSP audio modes (addressed later).

Picky audio fans will enjoy access to their favorite Hi-Res audio tracks. Yamaha has made the A3070 fully functional with most common Hi-Res audio file types, including DSD (2.8 MHz/5.6 MHz) and FLAC, WAV, AIFF (up to 192 kHz/24-bit), and Apple Lossless (96 kHz/24-bit). And for those looking to introduce a bump in quality to lower resolution tracks, the included “Compressed Music Enhancer” is designed to add depth and breadth to sound.

Not surprisingly, streaming audio is prominently featured on the A3070, and the receiver delivers easy-to-use wireless performance like a champ. It features onboard access to Pandora, Spotify, Napster, and SiriusXM, along with TIDAL and Deezer. Of course, a host of wireless options are available for those interested in sending audio direct from a networked computer or mobile device. And wireless audio, including music stored on a USB stick, is easily accessed and controlled through Yamaha’s stellar MusicCast app.

Speaking of MusicCast, Yamaha’s slick wireless solution can be used to create a seamless network of multi-room whole home audio. All you need is a MusicCast enabled receiver and MusicCast capable wireless speakers. This isn’t a feature we tested during this review, but I’ve experienced demonstrations of the technology and its absolutely brilliant.


Out Of The Box
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The RX-A3070, much like other models in the AVENTAGE line, is boxed and shipped in high quality commercial grade packaging. And while the unboxing experience isn’t earthshattering, the receiver and its included accessories are all delivered as you’d expect from a world-class company. Despite offering a superior remote app, Yamaha still ships its receivers with a handy physical remote control, in addition to an external AM/FM antenna and various printed materials.

Physically, the A3070 has quite a presence when picked up and moved about. Its 40-pound weight feels confident and sturdy in the hands – overall build quality is excellent. Visually speaking, the A3070 carries a quiet confidence with a superior finished appearance. And Yamaha doesn’t skimp on items such as speaker posts and knobs. In fact, the A3070’s volume knob turns like pure gold, with a pleasing amount of resistance that makes it feel substantial and relevant (notably different from the 2015 model iteration).

Click on the video below to watch an unboxing of the A3070. The video includes up-close images of the receiver and its included accessories (definitely worth a watch).




Set Up
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The A3070’s rear panel presents a forest of connectivity options that, at first glance, looks cramped and intimidating. Hook up, however, proved to be relatively simple due to the panel’s logical layout and easy to read input/output labels. For this particular review, installation included running HDMI, speaker, and RCA cables for single zone multi-channel playback. As previously noted, the A3070 has native 11.2-channel surround processing but only houses 9 amp sections. To accommodate my 7.2.4 Atmos layout, I paired the receiver with my trusty Emotiva XPA-5 standalone amplifier (which fed the system’s rear presence channels).

Once again, Yamaha has opted to nix the inclusion of multi-channel inputs, making it impossible to run outboard multi-channel signal processing or analog feeds from an external source. Yamaha, however, has designed the A3070 to decode multi-channel DSD via an HDMI connection to a Blu-ray player. In addition, the included SABRE DAC is a member of ESS Technology’s top tier of conversion chips (so you’re guaranteed incredibly accurate onboard digital to analog conversion). While uber-picky audiophiles may consider this a downgrade, the vast majority of buyers will find the A3070’s multi-channel processing capabilities to exceed that of other gear they own. And it’s important to reiterate that analog inputs are available for two-channel listening.

Post hook up, I placed the included calibration microphone and stand at my primary listening position and ran Yamaha’s top-end YPAO-R.S.C. room correction package. The provided onscreen set-up instructions were easy to follow, guiding me through measurements of distance, angle, and height (for better Atmos performance), in addition to room acoustics. Post calibration, I checked the system’s channel levels with a handheld SPL meter and found that all 11 channels had been set within one dB of reference – applause for Yamaha! My only gripe with the process was YPAO’s inability to keep speaker settings intact during the calibration process (YPAO set the vast majority of speakers to “Large,” requiring me to re-enter the settings menu and reset each speaker to “Small” with an 80Hz crossover). With that outstanding, the room calibration process was relatively painless.

My theater room is well treated by mixture of absorption and diffusion, so the groundwork for great sound is already in place. As you’ll note, the pre- and post-calibration measurement graph doesn’t appear to indicate that a YPAO had tremendous amount of impact on smoothing my system’s frequency response. Keep in mind, this is only one measurement from one specific setting; YPAO may result in a significantly measurable effect in another type of room. I will comment, however, that my system’s audio sounded more sharp and cohesive post-calibration, most likely do YPAO’s calculation of speaker distances and angles, in addition to leveling each channel to 75 dB (as heard at the primary listening position).


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Pre (Red) and Post (Purple) YPAO Room Correction frequency response measurements


The final install step involved linking the RX-A3070 to my home Wi-Fi network. The process was super simple, made easy by sharing network settings via my iPhone. Once aligned, the receiver quickly reported that a firmware update was available for download. Executing that update involved a few clicks on the remote, and ten minutes later the A3070 was ready to play.


Associated Equipment
The RX-A3070 was integrated with the same SVS Ultra Atmos system recently featured in a separate AV NIRVANA review. That system utilizes Ultra Towers and an Ultra Center on the front end, rear and side channels comprised of Ultra Bookshelf and Ultra Surrounds, four ceiling mounted Prime Elevation height channels, and Dual SB16 subs. An OPPO UDP-205 was used as a primary source for music and movie disc playback, and a JVC RS520 4K e-Shift projector handled the display side of the equation.


Performance
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(Tom Petty / Reprise Records)

If your attention span is generally short, then you’ll appreciate what I’m about to tell you: the RX-A3070 is, without exception, an excellent high-class two-channel and multi-channel performer. Throughout this review’s demo sessions, I engaged and disengaged the crutch of my system’s active SB16 subwoofers, and the A3070’s amp section had zero issues delivering exacting audio at reference levels. That includes both two-channel music and extreme multi-channel driven Atmos presentations. Demo sessions used a mixture of discs, USB media, Bluetooth, and streaming music sources. All of them were easy to access and performed as expected.

Total class, total confidence, and absolutely ridiculous fun.

A rugged stereo recording such as Rage Against the Machine’s 1992 self-titled sonic attack (CD) gracefully growled from the SVS Ultra Towers with power and punch, all the while retaining a sharpness and zing. Even when the subs were introduced to the equation, the A3070 kept the sound balanced and perfectly timed. Then there was the multi-channel extravaganza issued by Meat Beat Manifesto’s punishing In Dub (DVD, 5.1), which encased my theater room in a dome of pulsating electronica. The album’s potent bass pounded with near limitless depth and Jack Danger’s bizarre world of drum rhythms and funky samples were punctuated by energetic clarity. And to top things off, I was pleased to find that the RX-A3070 identified my music disc source as an OPPO UDP-205, displaying the player’s name on the receiver’s front mounted display!

As stereo listening sessions progressed, I channeled my inner millennial and launched the Yamaha MusicCast app. After entering some quick information, TIDAL Hi-Fi was accessible and ready to be played. The app’s interface provided instant browsing of my favorite artist, song, and album lists, in addition to all of the search features needed to find new music. I quickly kicked-off a musical tour of Tom Petty’s magical catalog of American rock. Sound quality was discernably near-CD in its presentation, loaded with the shimmering sounds of Petty’s guitar in “Free Fallin” and his seductively wobbly voice on “Wildflowers.” Shifting gears, I called upon the Bleachers’ distinctive 80s vibe and filled my room with anthem and rhythm from the likes of “Don’t Take The Money,” and “Rollercoaster.”

As mentioned, Yamaha’s onboard DSP processing offers quite a few sound altering options that can be applied to your favorite media. These include modes that mimic everything from the small sound of an underground nightclub to the cavernous echoes of a large cathedral setting. You can also ask the A3070 to up-mix standard two-channel audio into various multi-channel arrangements. I had quite a bit of fun hearing favorite tracks wrap themselves around my listening position by recruiting side and rear channels. If anything, it added a level of newness that gave old favorites a kick of life.

Overall, the A3070’s musical presentation was to perfection, powering SVS’s Ultras to a land of sonic bliss. In many ways, my music-driven demo sessions were an appetizer that prepped my ears for the main course: immersive sound. It wasn’t long before I hand selected a stack of favorites from my collection of Blu-ray and 4K movies. To be truthful, that stack included both DTS:X and Dolby Atmos demo discs, because, after all, it’s hard not to jump right into the fray when you have a wicked Atmos system at your disposal.

A quick tour of well-known immersive sound movie scenes set my theater room ablaze with smile inducing sound and confirmed the validity of my two-channel impressions. The A3070 knows how to manage an entertainment show. Even when my system’s full speaker array was taken to near-reference levels, the receiver never flinched and quality of sound held steady. From the richly textured beats of the DTS:X “Cymatics” demo to the rush of dynamic sounds issued by the Unbroken bomber scene, the A3070 performed exactly as expected.


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(Walt Disney Studios)


Eager to dig a bit deeper, I settled on three feature films: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Blu-ray, 7.1 DTS-HD MA), Everest (Blu-ray, Dolby Atmos), and Passengers (4K UHD Blu-ray, Dolby Atmos).

The Force Awakens was first on the docket.

JJ Abrams’ reboot of Hollywood’s most storied franchise has nearly every audio element necessary for an exciting and enveloping experience. Incredible score? Check. Rich dialog? Check. Spectacular special effects? Double check. What’s missing is an Atmos encode. The disc does carry a stellar 7.1 DTS-HD MA multi-channel presentation, however, which gave me a perfect opportunity to engage the A3070’s Surround Decoder. The decoder, when set on auto, will engage either DTS Neural:X or Dolby Surround to create an immersive sound presentation.

The A3070’s management of The Force Awakens was nothing short of spectacular. John Williams’s timeless music dazzled my ears with detail dripping from every note. And action scenes were filled with pinpoint directionality and movement, whether it was a TIE fighter screaming overhead or the crackling rumble of the Millennium Falcon as it powered through hyper-space. Even the most minute of audio effects – such as beeps emanating from a control panel – were delivered with precision. It was a very natural sounding viewing, with overhead effects that appeared just as one would expect. Truthfully, the lack of a true Atmos encode was a total non-issue, thanks to the A3070’s advanced processing capabilities.

Next up, I tapped Everest. The A3070 instantly recognized Everest’s Atmos sound package and I was off and running to the frigid terrain of the Himalayas. The film’s audio intensity is a slow burn that eventually turns into a four-alarm fire. The A3070 managed the entire experience without incident, driving my theater room to extraordinary heights. Subtleties, such as gentle wind and footsteps on crushed stone had a life-like appearance. And the storm – oh that magnificent storm – sent the system into overdrive, with every speaker hammering away with ferocity. This was a perfect opportunity to take the A3070 to ear-shredding reference levels, and it obliged with thunderous bass and crystal-clear atmospherics; a perfect dome of immersive sound.

For the final act, I doubled-down and stuck with Passengers. The introduction of a 4K disc led to a slightly longer HDMI handshake period, but the gear chain eventually worked itself out and both picture and sound popped to life. The A3070’s pass-through of the film’s 4K HDR image was pure and devoid of any noticeable issues; color and clarity was reference. The audio (another Atmos track) was scintillating, loaded with thunderous bass and plenty of sounds swirling around the room. The height channels had several moments where voices poured through their drivers, particularly as the distressed ship warned of an eminent reactor disaster. Much like the previous two films, the A3070’s management of speakers and sound was utterly fantastic.


Conclusion
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Yamaha’s AVENTAGE series is a frequent recipient of high praise, and the company has hit another homerun with its latest flagship design. From build quality to high-tech features – not to mention price – the RX-A3070 is one of the industry’s top sub-$2,500 AV receivers. While I’d like to see Yamaha add two additional amp channels to make the A3070 a true standalone 11-channel model, the need for an external amp is a small complaint. If anything, it opens a door to flagship performance with the ability to budget for expansion in the future.

The A3070 receives high marks for usability – including praise for its remote and MusicCast apps, and the assortment of ways to access and distribute audio and video content. It can easily serve as a media hub for the home. On the performance front, the receiver’s native power is clean and robust, and the ability to play nicely with both HLG and Dolby Vision HDR are major bonuses.

The bottom line? This is a receiver that I’d happily welcome into my home. If you’re in the market or considering an upgrade, the RX-A3070 should be on your shortlist of shopping options. Highly Recommended.

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RX-A3070 Specifications
  • Number Of Channels: 9
  • Stereo RMS Power (watts): 150
  • THD in Stereo: 0.06 %
  • Frequency Bandwidth (stereo): 20-20k Hz
  • Minimum Impedance L/R: 4 ohms
  • Minimum Impedance Center: 6 ohms
  • Minimum Impedance Surround: 6 ohms

  • Internet-ready: Yes
  • Bluetooth: Built-in
  • Apple AirPlay: Built in
  • App Remote Control: Yes
  • USB port for iPod/iPhone: No
  • HD Radio Tuner: No
  • On-Screen Display: Thru HDMI
  • Auto Speaker Calibration: YPAO-RSC 3D Multi
  • HDCP 2.2 for 4K Video: Yes
  • HDR-compatible: HDR10, Dolby Vision (FW), HLG (FW)
  • HDMI Standby Pass-through: Yes
  • Composite Video Conversion: From Composite to HDMI
  • Component Video Conversion: From Component Video to HDMI
  • HDMI to HDMI Upconversion: Yes
  • DLNA Certified
  • MHL-compatible: No
  • Multibrand Remote Control: No
  • Learning Remote: No

  • Width (inches): 17-1/8
  • Height (inches): 7-1/2
  • Depth (inches): 19-5/16
  • Weight (pounds): 39.9
  • Parts Warranty: 3 Years
  • Labor Warranty: 3 Years

  • Powered Multi-room Audio Output: Yes
  • Preamp Multi-room Audio Output: Yes
  • Multi-room Video: Yes
  • Multi-room HDMI Output: Yes

  • Dolby Digital DD, TrueHD, DD+, EX, Dolby Atmos: Yes
  • DTS DTS, HD, HDMA, ES, 96/24, DTS:X: Yes

  • Phono Input: 1
  • Audio-Video Inputs: 8
  • Audio-only Inputs: 4
  • Component Video Inputs: 2
  • Component Video Monitor Outputs: None
  • Optical Digital Inputs: 3
  • Coaxial Digital Inputs: 3
  • Optical Digital Outputs: None
  • Coaxial Digital Outputs: None
  • HDMI Inputs: 8
  • HDMI Monitor Outputs: 2
  • Subwoofer Outputs: 2
  • Multi-Channel Analog Input: No
  • Multi-channel Preamp Output: Yes
  • Main Speaker Output Pairs: 1
  • Main Speaker Terminals Posts
  • Ethernet Port: 1
  • USB Connections: 1 Front
  • Removable Power Cord: IEC 2-prong
 
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Hello Todd. I just purchased the RX-A3070 all because of your good reviews on it. It should be arriving 2morrow after 2 weeks back n forth with the repair shop.. I'm just upgrading from a denon AVR-S910W. It was ok but after a year the HDMI video signals started cutting in and out. So I exchanged it and paid the difference. I'm just starting to get into this better sound quality field. I also purchased the Onkyo TX-8270 200 watt 2 channel stereo rcv for now until the RX-A3070 gets here. Would this be ok to run as an external amp to power 2 of my speakers and one of the 2 subwoofers. Leaning towards the Yamaha YST-SW015 6.5" 70 watt. The other is the Sony SAWM40 12" 120 watt. Yeah i know old and out dated speakers...but I've had them from my 1st Yamaha AVR. I'm slowly upgrading my speakers finally. I'm planning on changing all speakers to Klipsch. I have the Klipsch RM15 for my front heights and the Klipsch Icon KF-28 dual 8" for my towers. The other speakers are the ones that came with my 1st yamaha receiver it's a 7.1 setup. Please give me your input on what you think is the best way to set up what I have. Sorry for the length of this.

Hey there what169, thanks becoming a member on AV NIRVANA! Good choice on the RX-A3070. Very nice gear!

The TX-8270 should be fine to run a stereo pair of speakers in addition to one of those subwoofers. I don't believe, however, you'll be able to use it as a standalone amplifier in conjunction with the RX-A3070.

I'm a little confused as to what kind of setup you're looking to deploy. You currently have enough speakers for 7.1?
 

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Hey Todd. Thanks for ur reply. I have a total of 11 speakers and 3 subs. The 6 speakers in the back are 2 yamaha and 4 panasonic. They are from my very 1st avr. I didn't want to get rid of them so i just tied 2 of them in with the 2 yamahas. Both together are like 60 to 80 watts max. The other 2 panasonic are ran off the original Panasonic avr with the sub it came with. I have a really weird setup I know. But i made it work. The TX-8720 has a remote trigger. So I was hoping to get that to power the heights and 1 sub to free up some channels on the RX-A3070. Eventually I will to get the Klipsch RP-140SA for the rear. My end game is 11.2 with all Klipsch speakers. I will upgrade to a true stand alone amp this year. So I'm asking from your knowledge what is the best way to set this up for now for best sound
 

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Hey Todd. Thanks for ur reply. I have a total of 11 speakers and 3 subs. The 6 speakers in the back are 2 yamaha and 4 panasonic. They are from my very 1st avr. I didn't want to get rid of them so i just tied 2 of them in with the 2 yamahas. Both together are like 60 to 80 watts max. The other 2 panasonic are ran off the original Panasonic avr with the sub it came with. I have a really weird setup I know. But i made it work. The TX-8720 has a remote trigger. So I was hoping to get that to power the heights and 1 sub to free up some channels on the RX-A3070. Eventually I will to get the Klipsch RP-140SA for the rear. My end game is 11.2 with all Klipsch speakers. I will upgrade to a true stand alone amp this year. So I'm asking from your knowledge what is the best way to set this up for now for best sound

Hey @what169 if I understand your question, you want to add the 2 channel receiver to your new 11 channel receiver to power additional surround speakers. It is certainly possibly to connect a 2 channel receiver to the pre-out or the Yamaha to power additional speakers. However it may not be necessary. If the speakers you have are 8oms each it may be fine to parallel them together. If you do want to power them separately you will need to connect rca cables to the appropriate surround line level out from the Yamaha to an analogue input on the receiver. You will fix the volume on the onkyo receiver so that it matches the SPL level of the other surround speakers. If you don’t have measurement equipment then you can adjust by ear, until it’s barely audible over the other surrounds.

As for the subwoofers, are these powered subwoofers? If so then you do not need to power them from the receiver. They should connect to the subwoofer line output on the Yamaha. If they need amplification you could use the receiver but then it can’t also power the subs. Receivers are also not good amps for subs, lacking enough power or current,so I wouldn’t suggest this as a long term solution.
 

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Hi Matthew. Thanks for the info. I need help on something. For Todd or Matthew...sorry for the long message. So i finally got my yamaha 3070. I have all Klipsch speakers so I'll refer to them by their model #s. I bi amped the Icon kf 28s using the front and front presence on the AVR. I have the R 150 Ms as front presence but powered thru the onkyo 8720 200 watt 2 channel (reason being...I use this for streaming and listening to music so i don't have to turn on everything all the time & have one of my subs attached to this). The RB-10s 4in as surrounds and 2 RS-42 IIs as surround backs. I wanted to use the RS-42s as rear presence cause I set them up like a foot higher than the surrounds (5ft 9in as per diagram in the yamaha instructions). The problem is that there's no set up in the AVR amp configuration for how i have mines for Bi-Amping. There's only FPR & RPR or just RPR to an external amp. If I plug the speakers into the RPR on the AVR they will play as FPR cause that's how the configurations does when you Bi-Amp. So my questions are. Which sounds better the surround back or rear presence for both movies and music. If surround back...is it ok to leave them slightly elevated above the surrounds. They are at identical height to the front presence. Or what would you suggest I do.
 

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Sorry...I meant the R-15Ms
 

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If I were you, I'd run surround back. I think you'll get more from 7.1 as opposed to 5.1.2.
 

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ok thanks Todd. but is it ok to leave them like a foot higher than the regular surrounds?
 

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I think so... in fact, my rear surrounds are slightly higher than my side surrounds.

Just make sure to run your system's YPAO to get speaker distances/levels correct.
 

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ok. thank you so much Todd
 

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  • Hello I will borrow the yamaha rx-a3070 home this weekend and I was thinking about how to best set it up to get the best sound from it. i run a 5.2.4 setup klipsch rp-280f and rp-450c in front klipsch rp-250s surrounds and 4 inceiling speakers and 2 svs pb2000 subbs. I have one subb in front and one in the back. What should i turn on and what should i turn of for the best experience whit the yamaha rx-a3070. And wich mode should i pic for playing whit the bright klipsch speakers.? Parametric eq Flat Front Natural or Through
    Maybe some one could explaine the process to setup the yamaha and ypao calibration the best for me so i realy can get out the best of it this weekend..:-) And if it somthing whit the subbs settings i should Think of..?
    Hope you guy's can help me..:-)
    Best regards
 

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Thanks!

The two that I'm most familiar with (MCACC and YPAO) both need outboard help with subwoofer EQ.
Obviously, subwoofer placement within in a room can be tweaked and altered to get a smoother frequency response at the MLP, but neither of those packages do much (if anything) to address the those difficult low frequencies. I have a Marantz SR7012 unboxed and in hand for a two part review, so I'll have a fresh look at Audyssey's top correction package soon, and I'll be happy to compare and contrast for you.

YPAO definitely helps to sharpen imaging and deliver a much more cohesive show (in my opinion). The RX-A3070 channel leveled everything well... I still bumped up the sub output to my liking post calibration (which I frequently find necessary). That could be pure taste, however.

Overall, YPAO is good. I do wish it was designed to help tame LFE, however. That being said, I ran my entire demo session without any outboard EQ help... and I thought it sounded fantastic. Perhaps not as tight, bass-wise, as I typically run my theater room, but definitely in the range of acceptable.


Thanks!

The two that I'm most familiar with (MCACC and YPAO) both need outboard help with subwoofer EQ. Obviously, subwoofer placement within in a room can be tweaked and altered to get a smoother frequency response at the MLP, but neither of those packages do much (if anything) to address the those difficult low frequencies. I have a Marantz SR7012 unboxed and in hand for a two part review, so I'll have a fresh look at Audyssey's top correction package soon, and I'll be happy to compare and contrast for you.

YPAO definitely helps to sharpen imaging and deliver a much more cohesive show (in my opinion). The RX-A3070 channel leveled everything well... I still bumped up the sub output to my liking post calibration (which I frequently find necessary). That could be pure taste, however.

Overall, YPAO is good. I do wish it was designed to help tame LFE, however. That being said, I ran my entire demo session without any outboard EQ help... and I thought it sounded fantastic. Perhaps not as tight, bass-wise, as I typically run my theater room, but definitely in the range of acceptable.

Hello I will borrow the yamaha rx-a3070 this weekend and I was thinking about how to best set it up to get the best sound from it. i run a 5.2.4 setup klipsch rp-280f and rp-450c in front klipsch rp-250s surrounds and 4 inceiling speakers and 2 svs pb2000 subbs. I have one subb in front and one in the back. What should i turn on and what should i turn of for the best experience whit the yamaha rx-a3070. And wich mode should i pic for playing whit the bright klipsch speakers.? Parametric eq Flat Front Natural or Through
Maybe some one could explaine the process to setup the yamaha and ypao calibration the best for me so i realy can get out the best of it this weekend..:-) And if it somthing whit the subbs settings i should Think of..?
Hope you guy's can help me..:-)
Best regards
 

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Hello I will borrow the yamaha rx-a3070 this weekend and I was thinking about how to best set it up to get the best sound from it. i run a 5.2.4 setup klipsch rp-280f and rp-450c in front klipsch rp-250s surrounds and 4 inceiling speakers and 2 svs pb2000 subbs. I have one subb in front and one in the back. What should i turn on and what should i turn of for the best experience whit the yamaha rx-a3070. And wich mode should i pic for playing whit the bright klipsch speakers.? Parametric eq Flat Front Natural or Through
Maybe some one could explaine the process to setup the yamaha and ypao calibration the best for me so i realy can get out the best of it this weekend..:-) And if it somthing whit the subbs settings i should Think of..?
Hope you guy's can help me..:-)
Best regards

Hey Jaxon1, hope this isn't too late for your weekend trial.
After you get your speakers connected just follow the on-screen process to run YPAO. Because of your limited time with the unit I'd recommend using the single mic position placed exactly where someone's head would be when seated in the primary listening position. It's highly recommended for best results, as with any room correction software, that the mic be held with a mic stand as opposed to sitting on top of something. Using a stack of throw pillows on the main seat will get you close in the absence of a mic stand.

YPAO won't do much for your subs. If you've experimented and put them in the room for best result already that's good.

Regarding what sounds best... that's entirely up to you! Try each and see what you like best.

When YPAO is run it measures both the frequency response and reflections from walls/objects in your room aka the system's in-room impulse response. With that information it attempts to 1) reduce the impact of reflections which can change the frequency response and keep the sound from being as clear sounding as it could and 2) create 3 yamaha pre-defined equalization curves (Front, Flat, Natural). Parametric uses YPAO's reflection reduction filters without applying an equalization curve. Owners can then, within the limits of the filters available, create their own EQ curve or tweak on of the 3 curves YPAO makes.

So here's a quick summary:
Parametric - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ No, User can alter, Yes.
Front - Reflection reduction Yes, EQ Yes. EQ attempts to match all other speakers to Fronts in-room response. User can alter, No.
Flat - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ Yes. Highs are boosted and this will most likely sound brightest of the options. User an alter, No.
Natural - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ Yes. This curve will have the low frequencies louder and the high high frequencies rolled off by comparison which in most cases will produce an in-room result that sounds best since we humans will generally perceive a truly flat in room response as having thin bass.
Through - Reflection reduction No. EQ No. Bypasses all YPAO sound altering adjustments, but keeps your speaker distance, volume, and crossover settings intact.
Direct - All processing is disabled with the exception (if memory serves) of sound codec decoding (like dolby digital for example). Most often used for stereo listening where the front speakers have already been carefully placed for soundstage, imaging and frequency response.

Have fun. :)
 

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Hey Jaxon1, hope this isn't too late for your weekend trial.
After you get your speakers connected just follow the on-screen process to run YPAO. Because of your limited time with the unit I'd recommend using the single mic position placed exactly where someone's head would be when seated in the primary listening position. It's highly recommended for best results, as with any room correction software, that the mic be held with a mic stand as opposed to sitting on top of something. Using a stack of throw pillows on the main seat will get you close in the absence of a mic stand.

YPAO won't do much for your subs. If you've experimented and put them in the room for best result already that's good.

Regarding what sounds best... that's entirely up to you! Try each and see what you like best.

When YPAO is run it measures both the frequency response and reflections from walls/objects in your room aka the system's in-room impulse response. With that information it attempts to 1) reduce the impact of reflections which can change the frequency response and keep the sound from being as clear sounding as it could and 2) create 3 yamaha pre-defined equalization curves (Front, Flat, Natural). Parametric uses YPAO's reflection reduction filters without applying an equalization curve. Owners can then, within the limits of the filters available, create their own EQ curve or tweak on of the 3 curves YPAO makes.

So here's a quick summary:
Parametric - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ No, User can alter, Yes.
Front - Reflection reduction Yes, EQ Yes. EQ attempts to match all other speakers to Fronts in-room response. User can alter, No.
Flat - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ Yes. Highs are boosted and this will most likely sound brightest of the options. User an alter, No.
Natural - Reflection reduction Yes. EQ Yes. This curve will have the low frequencies louder and the high high frequencies rolled off by comparison which in most cases will produce an in-room result that sounds best since we humans will generally perceive a truly flat in room response as having thin bass.
Through - Reflection reduction No. EQ No. Bypasses all YPAO sound altering adjustments, but keeps your speaker distance, volume, and crossover settings intact.
Direct - All processing is disabled with the exception (if memory serves) of sound codec decoding (like dolby digital for example). Most often used for stereo listening where the front speakers have already been carefully placed for soundstage, imaging and frequency response.

Have fun. :)

Thanks for answear..:-)
Im going to try do the hole calibration. How far should i set the points and do the hights..?

What should i turn on and of and how can i dolby atmos go display on the unit..?
/Peter
 

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How far should i set the points and do the hights..?
No sure I understand the question. Sorry.
What should i turn on and of and how can i dolby atmos go display on the unit..?
Your dolby atmos source, bluray player for example, must send the signal to the Yamaha as a bitstream as opposed to PCM or LPCM. Nothing to turn on or off on the Yamaha.
 

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No sure I understand the question. Sorry.

Your dolby atmos source, bluray player for example, must send the signal to the Yamaha as a bitstream as opposed to PCM or LPCM. Nothing to turn on or off on the Yamaha.

How long betwin the calibrations 20cm 30cm or 40cm should i do the calibrations and should i set it after how it looks in the picture for calibration in sofa..?

I have it set at bitsream in my oppo player the Only way i can se that it is dolby atmos is if i press the info button. Not in the display on the yamaha..:-( something more that i forgot..? Wich movie mode should i have to se it..?
 

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How long betwin the calibrations 20cm 30cm or 40cm should i do the calibrations and should i set it after how it looks in the picture for calibration in sofa..?

If you space the measurements differently you will get audibly different results. Whether those results are more pleasing or more accurate will largely depend on your measured room response at each location as YPAO will tend toward averaging the measurements from the different locations. To actually know what is best would require a well trained ear and time, or more likely acoustic measurement software like REW to analyze. Hence my original suggestion of a single point accurately placed at the MLP for your weekend trial.

I have it set at bitsream in my oppo player the Only way i can se that it is dolby atmos is if i press the info button. Not in the display on the yamaha..:-( something more that i forgot..? Wich movie mode should i have to se it..?

Hopefully someone knows the answer to this one for you.
 
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Awesome review Todd. I think this forum was the platform where I gained the most confidence in the A3070 and having the receiver for over a week I realise what an awesome piece of equipment it is.
One more thing that is not mentioned in the review is the DSP and the wide selection of locations it has. Playing lossless Mozart and Beethoven in a small room (12x14x10) with the church DSP made me forget I’m sitting in a small room. Using the Roxy theatre to play Maroon 5 She will be loved, Payphone and Ed sheeran Shape of you got the wife to appreciate my choice.
I have upgraded after a while and into a new league (previous av receiver on a budget was Onkyo 727), and I would rate this worth each penny.
Where I belong to, there are no stores which give a demo/audition of any of the premium end receiver and there is no return policy (even with the box being sealed), so it was a hit or miss. I could only manage an audition of the A870 and oh boy 3070 is a beast compared to the 870.
The main competition was the Marantz 7012/8012 or the Denon 4400/6400. I know this is more of the Yamaha thread but could you tell me what all did I lose/gain by choosing the A3070. I have no complaints/issues, but would just want to know how the competition sounds (pun intended).
Thanks
 

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Hi all,

First time posting. Have quick question.

1. Current setup (RX A 2030) running 7.2 setup (Crown 1502 AMP powering front speakers
Klipsch KF28 x 2 and klipsch center
Surround and Surround back are all KS14.
Cerwin Vega Sub 150 (15 inch)

Just arrived is my new RX3070. Excited about Atmos/DTS X and better video passthrough. Also purchased R15 M set for front height/atmos (obviously not in ceiling) and will more than likely be purchasing an additional set for rear height/atmos (potentially)

2 limitations: 1. Speakers behind sitting area not possible (couch against wall). 2. No in ceiling option possible (but it is a 11/12 foot ceiling).

Would you place your front height speakers as far vertically as possible (angled towards sitting area) and slightly outside of the FL/FR speakers?

Where would you place surround back speakers? Options are:

1. ear level to the right and left of sitting area
2. On the rear wall above sitting area (firing overhead essentially)
3. On the rear wall faced down (behind the head slightly) spaced essentially to match FL/FR speakers (using a 90 degree mount for the KS-14

Thoughts?
 

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15315914402048644377259200484692.jpg 15315916374363772565581342780893.jpg As you can see the 3070 has 3 options for ATMOS. The height, overhead or reflective.
Personally i dont trust the reflective speakers. I have got only Fprn speakersx2 in ceiling and they do sound awesome. If I knew things I know now maybe I would also not make a hole in the ceiling
 

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Awesome review Todd. I think this forum was the platform where I gained the most confidence in the A3070 and having the receiver for over a week I realise what an awesome piece of equipment it is.
One more thing that is not mentioned in the review is the DSP and the wide selection of locations it has. Playing lossless Mozart and Beethoven in a small room (12x14x10) with the church DSP made me forget I’m sitting in a small room. Using the Roxy theatre to play Maroon 5 She will be loved, Payphone and Ed sheeran Shape of you got the wife to appreciate my choice.
I have upgraded after a while and into a new league (previous av receiver on a budget was Onkyo 727), and I would rate this worth each penny.
Where I belong to, there are no stores which give a demo/audition of any of the premium end receiver and there is no return policy (even with the box being sealed), so it was a hit or miss. I could only manage an audition of the A870 and oh boy 3070 is a beast compared to the 870.
The main competition was the Marantz 7012/8012 or the Denon 4400/6400. I know this is more of the Yamaha thread but could you tell me what all did I lose/gain by choosing the A3070. I have no complaints/issues, but would just want to know how the competition sounds (pun intended).
Thanks
Same questions: Versus Denon 6400H or Marantz SR7012, in which way is Yamaha A3070 superior to first ones? Thanks a lot.
 
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Same questions: Versus Denon 6400H or Marantz SR7012, in which way is Yamaha A3070 superior to first ones? Thanks a lot.
So, I just went to a friend’s place who had a 7012. He has a 5.1.2 setup with the paradigm ct100 system with a powerful (compared to my kef t2) sub. I am not an audiophile or any kind of a professional expert, so ignore if I get some terms wrong, but honestly the marantz lacked the punch. We even tried fiddling a bit with the settings changing crossovers adding/reducing power to speakers but could not gather that punch. The sub obviously did make it sound awesome, but dialogues over the shoulders and bullet shots were not as well received.
The place where I found the most difference was in a hall scene in a hindi movie called Bajirao Mastani, the opening scene. The sound fell so flat compared to my yammy with kef that I didn’t even have the heart to tell the guy.
Don’t think this clip will do justice but if you imagine a dts soundtrack with dts lighting up different speakers.
 

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I've purchased a RX-A3070 receiver. But I am unhappy with it because it makes a very annoying high frequency sound all the time. It is quite annoying. Tried to service it in a Yamaha authorized shop but couldn't have it fixed. Yamaha customer service was not helpful. For the price it is this receiver should be quiet. I cannot accept paying so much for such a noisy receiver.
 
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